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  1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MZr52-x9p4w#t=464s

    Friday, 19-Jul-13 07:16:52 UTC from web
    1. Artorias Artorias

      @nerthos "Not available on rhis platform"

      Friday, 19-Jul-13 07:17:51 UTC from web
      1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

        @bowandlyre Mobile?

        Friday, 19-Jul-13 07:19:21 UTC from web
        1. Artorias Artorias

          @nerthos Yup

          Friday, 19-Jul-13 07:19:34 UTC from web
        2. Artorias Artorias

          @nerthos So what's the haps?

          Friday, 19-Jul-13 07:21:24 UTC from web
          1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

            @bowandlyre Azumanga Daioh+the soviet anthem

            Friday, 19-Jul-13 07:44:41 UTC from web
            1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

              @nerthos @bowandlyre http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IDmF1O4cNM

              Friday, 19-Jul-13 07:47:23 UTC from web
    2. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

      @awlderpy It's a nice concept that can't be held working for long.

      Friday, 19-Jul-13 07:50:42 UTC from web
    3. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

      @awlderpy Communism would be great in a society of equal individuals, but humans are by no means equal, so our best bet is a competitive society.

      Friday, 19-Jul-13 07:53:46 UTC from web
    4. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

      @awlderpy They were intellectuals. I as one can understand where they came from. Among idealist and intelligent people, devoted to a cause, a society of equals without a need of rulers can and is often brought to fruition, but when you try to port that model to massive numbers of people, it breaks irreparably.

      Friday, 19-Jul-13 07:58:03 UTC from web
    5. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

      @awlderpy Yes. Communism was implemented on the big scale alwayws in times of need and turmoil. When the people were living really hard lives. For it to function for long periods of time, it needs to be implemented in a relatively prosperous moment, with the idea of using it as a medium to better the society, instead of just to be able to eat.

      Friday, 19-Jul-13 08:05:05 UTC from web
    6. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

      @awlderpy Yep. It was often implemented in a way that turned people into drones.

      Friday, 19-Jul-13 08:08:34 UTC from web
      1. treesy treesy

        @nerthos logically, for communism to work, it would have to only include people who WANT it to work. I can't see it working in a large scale way.

        Friday, 19-Jul-13 08:11:20 UTC from web
        1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

          @treesy Exactly. People who actually strive to be equal.

          Friday, 19-Jul-13 08:12:48 UTC from web
          1. treesy treesy

            @nerthos if a person doesn't believe in it, they'll just try and subvert it.

            Friday, 19-Jul-13 08:14:27 UTC from web
            1. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

              @treesy Yep. I myself am a very greedy, idealist and power-hungry man, but when faced with other people like me I can easily take a position of equal to the rest of the crew and work towards an end, since I know it's the best way to do it. But most people don't have either the drive, the skill or the ideals to do any of that.

              Friday, 19-Jul-13 08:16:16 UTC from web
    7. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

      @awlderpy It often IS the only way, as sadly a major potion of any population wants to live without doing anything.

      Friday, 19-Jul-13 08:14:45 UTC from web
    8. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

      @awlderpy And we crash against the wall that represents the differences in skill of different individuals, that turns the idea of the same portion of the earnings for each member into something in no way fair.

      Friday, 19-Jul-13 08:17:57 UTC from web
    9. RDN's Lucifer RDN's Lucifer

      @awlderpy Eeexactly! That's why those models in a big scale are by all means utopical.

      Friday, 19-Jul-13 08:21:25 UTC from web